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You know, I don’t really think their is a connection between a sexually liberal society and higher animal sex abuse. I think its just a case of lonely farmers. ;)
everywhere people have the freedom they will abuse it. not all people but there will be always some. In a strong community this won’t happend, or atleast less.
As long as you follow the golden rule, I don’t think there is a problem. We don’t want to limit freedom if it’s not hurting anyone (or animals, environment, etc)
Now the question is – do animals really want a bit of human loving? Ahhh, I crack myself up.
Boomstam if we cherrypick the bible John 2:15 onwards is a little bit of a contradiction to Love and peace to all:so he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area;he scattered the coins of the money-changers and overturned their tables…John 2:19 Jesus answered them “Destroy this temple” yeah very friendly and compassionate he would be arrested for breach of the peace and criminal damage in todays world.
Check out when jesus utters seven curses Luke 11:42-52 consigns to hellfire those who do not believe Luke 10:15 and 12:10 when he heaps abuse in Mark 13. This is not the work of an all loving and compassionate god with unconditional love.
typical form you shouldn’t read the bible lenny, the vers 19 is about the body of Christ himself, used as symbolic. And about vers 15. rich people were making money out of poor people because of a religious statement. selling animals for a really high price, while the poor HAD to sacrafice the animals. Ita the same as the catholic church sold heaven entrance tickets to the poor. please dont think you with a single bible quote you can make all christians unbelievers…..
ah nevermind too, you just want to look stupid, to bad you dont dare to post it on your real accont
offcourse we dont want limetless freedom jojo, specially not when it harms others or yourself. (btw some animals like beeing abused scientist says :S)
That LA Times article was ridiculous. The whole thing is too generalized and taken from someone who does not really know anything about Christianity (although I only know about Catholicism, at least it’s something). I consider myself a liberal, but I also go to church every Sunday. How can the writer say the truest of true believers are the ones who kill themselves and others “for their religion?” They are the most mistaken of believers. And I can’t stand the religious right. They make all Christians look crazy. God doesn’t care about political parties (they’re all liars anyway). And I’m not “by… lingering attachment to the unique divinity of Jesus, protect(ing) the faith of fundamentalists from public scorn.” They get it wrong (the Christian Conservatives). Injecting God into politics demeans God and reduces God to an advertising ploy (Candidate X…now with religion! (cut to Candidate X talking about the evilness of gays))
Ha Boomstam I feel your anger and hatred well done, the dark side is strong in you! Satan would be proud! i don’t want to make any of you anything other than what feels right for you. I’m not arrogant. I am just stating facts as I read them, just like you do,the only difference is you attack me! Well done for illustrating the dangers of religion. Its up to everyone to come to there own conclusions. Attacking me is just an attack on yourself! Compassion, forgiveness and love to you!
Ahhh Boomstam you are playing with me! Well done!!! I nearly fell for it. Making out you are a Christian and having all these fun discusions…or am I talking about myself too ;-)
To me the limit of freedom is based on Live and let Live – which I think we are probably in agreement on.
i dont attack you, but if you say: a frog is green so it must be a vegteble…then i just have no choise to laught about it eh?
people should never just pick random bible quotes, not in front ofg a christian who have sometimes his whole life spending to learn the meaning of those words. And you just want to do it in a second? I’ve seen that kind of diusscusion before and it makes no sense at all. I suggest you search what jojo wrote a few months long. Maybe you can learn from him.
Hello Boomstam.
It took me a while to understand where you were coming from, and it suddenly hit me that you had similar values to me even though we look at it from different places. I know you have been looking for guidance and value in the bible.
But you know what I really think – those wonderful positive values that you hold – altruism, individuality, acceptance, love and other virtues – they are already inside you. Those things you read in the bible are a reflection of values you already hold. You don’t need to look outside yourself for enrichment – you are already enriched!
ok ok ok wtf is wrong with all you christian people. in the bible it said that adam and eve had 2 sons 2 SONS to guys cannot have kids and anyway even if adam and eve had 1 son and one duaghter their kids would have been interbred and if they had kids the genetics would fuck up and they would die or be sterile. major failure of common sense in this religion
To really think about it…we’re all relatives to each other ‘cause we’re all descendants of Adam and Eve…
ahem excuse me but please read my above comment “ok ok ok wtf is wrong with all you christian people. in the bible it said that adam and eve had 2 sons 2 SONS to guys cannot have kids and anyway even if adam and eve had 1 son and one duaghter their kids would have been interbred and if they had kids the genetics would fuck up and they would die or be sterile. major failure of common sense in this religion”
Gen 5,4 and the days of Adam after he begat Seth were eight hundred years: and he *begat sons and daughters. *
revolution, you need education bye and cheers now :)
yeah but has it not got into your brain yet??!!! they would have all been related ahem incest ahem after a while their offspring would be retarded and unbale to reproduce boomstam, you need education bye and cheers now :)
i did not mention a single statement of the book genesis. You just have your preconceived opinion about me. But still, adam didn’t had just 2 sons, what make you look very stupid now doesn’t it?
Revolution said: in the bible it said that adam and eve had 2 sons 2 SONS
so, the bible didn’t talked about just 2 sons.
talk about that dude? well? you had it wrong huh? can you say that? say you had it wrong? I bet you can’t
kiddo
ok so say if they had say 1 son and 1 daughter or watever its called insest argh it doesnt work !
kiddo
woah this is like a huge chat thing...
Jesus rocks!!
you with the gun pic: youre a loser!! >:P
and the person who said they love cheese, lol. that was so random.
good job! cuz this is like a religious or whatever debate...
and Jesus still rocks!
You're wasting your time Jojo. I was once like you... I thought that being intellectual and using knowledge and the truth was the best way to deal with a Christian. That was some years ago... I have now decided that Christianity is always going to be intolerant towards lots of things and people say to fight fire with fire... so you should be intolerant against intolerance. I am personally asatru - I respect your view that all religion is bad. I have a great deal of respect for atheists. But I don't convert others (it is a very simple concept to me that religion just isn't for someone else), I don't bulls**t or bad mouth other religions (apart from Christianity but I see that more as a form of state-control and mind police than a religion and besides I don't bulls**t them. I don't have to) and I accept science and the theory of evolution (I find science fascinating and I learn more and more every day. Especially about sub-atomic particles such as quarks and bosons. Quantum physics rules!) I worship Thor though... god of thunder (and of course the rest of the Norse pantheon). People will say that religion is just having invisible friends and it's rather childish... but everyone loves Thor. His blonde and beardless depiction in the Marvel comics is pretty cool... he was rather popular aswell. Asatrus like me believe that Thor is not a man with a beard and a hammer though. I believe that Thor is thunder and lightning itself. So invisible it is not. But thunder and lightning kicks ass! And Thor sounds like a guy who can get things done. Anyway, the reason I'm saying all this is because I know many Christians will jump at the chance of replying to this but I'm just not going to read them. I will gladly listen to other people's opinions and ideas and respect their views... BUT... these people don't have opinions and ideas or views. They have been utterly brain-washed and they will lie and scream and talk s**t just to get their point across. I could spend hours going through every little bit of Christianity and shower you with PROOF of how it is all b*ll*cks but I can't really be asked... I'd be wasting my words on those who haven't got the intelligence to understand.
I would like to add that any Christian who replies to this or even says my name will have just backed up my point and also identified themselves as a waste of space. :D
If you would still like to do so then you might as well know that I will NOT read your replies or comments because I am not one to waste time with those who cannot comprehend the most BASIC of premises.
George Carlin rules! Atheism rules! (Thor rules)
whoose cloon are you?
P.S Boomstam is a fool. He needs to read... a lot. And think about everything carefully before he speaks.
I'm hoping he replies to this to prove me right. I also predict he will start by saying something like 'I will reply to this but that does not mean I'm a fool.' It does actually Boomstam. It means you missed the point entirely. And besides... you are already a fool. =D
I love being intolerant against intolerant people.
how cute :)
Cloon? I'm sorry… do you mean clown? or clone? or perhaps you are referring to Cloone, a village in Ireland. I said I wouldn't read the comments but I've changed my mind. It amuses me so. =D
same here, so plz continue oh and yes i ment clone
Well perhaps you could elaborate. Clone? If you must know I stumbled upon this page whilst reading some rather gripping articles on Christianity and its lies. I read some of the comments and was compelled to contribute my own thoughts. I would also request that you do not use abbreviations such as plz... it doesn't really do you any favours if you're trying to sound intellectual now does it? But you are young and naive... very well.
'U may talk az u wish. lol omg wtf !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1'
Oh but I would love to hear what you think about Asatru. Considering Christianity stole so much from it. Christmas trees, Easter (from the goddess of fertility Eostre), the sign of the cross from the sign of the hammer… etc.
nah, you are a clone for sure. a bit afraid to post under his own name i think.
ow and i can believe you would love to hear the things you asked. But hey thats to bad i dont feel like talking about christianity with you.
Well you've proved your ignorance and stupidity to me. Not that you needed to. I am not a 'clone' as it happens. I am not even older than you as you might have expected. I am a decade younger than you are. It was my 16th birthday last week. =) Anyway, I too believe that this argument should end. It did start well and I thought you may just have the intelligence to argue with me but it seems talking to you is like talking to a 5 year old with an adult vocabulary. I would like to say that I am not trying to convert you to atheist or anything of the sort. I am merely trying to provide some entertainment for the more mentally able of internet surfers. Nederlander to Nederlander... I shall finish by saying 'Ga rukken.' =D
And lastly, afraid? I have never heard of anyone being afraid of a Christian. Unless he/she had a knife and intended to break some commandments. My real name is Steven Van Veen, I live in Rotterdam and you'll usually find me in Roel Langerakpark at the weekend. Anyway... you're a fool. And you need to read.
lol you are so funny. didnt want to miss this. Thanks for updating this topic as im sure other people will find it much amusement too, like i do.
christianity….the biggest mind control scam
Please don't stereotype us by idiots like Fred Phelps. It sucks that the crazy ones are the ones who can't shut their mouths. I believe in evolution, and the Big Bang theory. Most scientists do believe in God, like Stephen Hawking, because he looks at DNA and says that something like this is so intricate and organized that it's impossible to say something didn't design or make this.
oke that is new for me? after all he wrotye the disillusion god book
I happen to be a Christian. The forgiveness he offers to everyone that will believe in him and accept him into there hearts. He is coming back to judge all of us.(The book of Revelations); The Bible is are rule book of life's issues. I love the verse John 3:16 and Psalms 23:6 and all of Psalms 23.
I am a Christian. God can help us through our problems. I love the footprint poem!:)
he does offer forgiveness and without him we are spirtutially dead. (sorry about the spelling don't spell good.)
Christianity? Meh….not a fan.
Christainity changed my life for the better. I LOve God. I cannot believe I went for so long without being close to Him. But I'm glad He lead my right into His arms :)
I always love to share my testimony.
Its long i know...but do read. :)
Below is an extract from my church website.
So I took it all out on my family: it started gradually, with complaining about having to go to church with my mum, then on to making up excuses, and then downright refusing to go to church. I became this other person. At home (when I was forced to be there) I was moody and made it blatantly obvious that I didn’t want to be there, and when I went out I was happier. I got into a lot of trouble with my mum and our relationship got so bad that we even stopped talking for a while. Sometimes I would go out for three days straight and not call and/or answer my phone and she would be worried sick. My mum has sickle cell anaemia, which is a genetic blood disease so she gets ill really easily. My behaviour did not help at all.
I first came across re:generation Church when my family moved to Gidea Park. My mum walked past it and said “Oh that’s very convenient. So we can go to church on Sunday”. She didn’t get to go for the next three weeks but then she decided one week that we had to go. I made up about seven different excuses why I couldn’t go that week and so my mum gave up, not in the mood for an argument.
When she got back she couldn’t stop talking about it and how nice it was. And then she said to me “Iman I can promise you that if you go to this church you would enjoy it very much. Besides, it’s aimed more at you than me.” I laughed. My mum was always “prophesying” I didn’t want to go partly because I was afraid she was right. My mum hardly said things like that and when she did, she was never wrong - and I mean NEVER! So the next weekend I asked my best friend to come along to the service. I hoped her “atheist side” would keep me in tune with reality (she has a sort of ‘pick and mix’ faith). I had made up my mind that I would go to please my mum, prove her wrong and in turn she would not try to make me go to church ever again.
I had my routine worked out. I’ll go, then tell mum it was as rubbish as I had expected, then I’ll tell all my friends what my mum tried to do and have a good laugh about it all. So I went that Sunday. As I got to the entrance I was shocked at the amount of young people I saw there. I was used to church having an adult and elderly crowd with maybe a few teenagers who’d been forced and some toddlers. That was just the beginning of it. And then I noticed how friendly everyone was. I didn’t remember anyone ever being sincerely interested in knowing who you were at church. I tried to keep my focus on why I was there, which was to prove my mum wrong; being interested in re:generation wasn’t part of that plan.
The service started and found myself thinking ‘well this isn’t too bad’. Well after the worship, Eleanor gave a testimony which really touched me. I felt like we had similar experiences yet she was somehow able to just let go and forgive and be happy. I just found that very hard to believe. Why couldn’t I be as free as she was? Didn’t I deserve some happiness too? My friend tried talking to me because she could see I was being disarmed, but I had no control. I started crying and laughing and I really felt a sudden urge to talk to Eleanor. I went over to her and introduced myself and I found myself blurting out my entire life to this complete stranger who seemed to understand me very well. I found it very strange. She prayed for me and I agreed to come again the next week.
When I got home and told my mum everything that happened she laughed so much and I realised she was once again right. But I didn’t care; I really wanted to know more about how Christianity would affect my life. The next week I went again and although I wasn’t very sure if I wanted Jesus as part of my life, I found the message really encouraging and decided to start making changes in my life. I really felt like I had to let go of some things to be able to make room for God. I told my friends I was going to church now, I was ridiculed and they came to the conclusion that I must be having some sort of break down so they “disowned” me without actually mentioning that they had. Their actions spoke very clearly, we stayed in touch but it wasn’t wholehearted. I didn’t really mind, I knew what I needed first and I could worry about everything else later. A week or two later there was a guest speaker at re:generation – it was a minister and his wife who said that anyone who needed prayer for anything at all should come forward during the worship. I felt the urge to go forward but was very hesitant at first, but then I decided to just go out and talk to her – after all, what was the worst that could happen?
I told her how I felt and everything that I had been through and she said she could sense I had bottled it all up and I needed to let go of it and give it all to God. I said a little prayer that God would open up my heart and make me receptive of the Spirit. As she began to pray for me, she said I should search deep within me for the source of all this hurt. I closed my eyes and searched my heart for a second and had a picture of myself with my dad and all of a sudden it was like a dam had burst, like someone turned on the tap and broke the handle. I couldn’t stop, I felt so much pain and I couldn’t control my emotions. I cried for what seemed like hours and I felt so weak. I felt so light, so free, like I could finally breathe. The sort of feeling you get when you inhale after having your head submerged in water. It felt beautiful – too bad it didn’t look pretty because I had snot and mascara everywhere! That for me was the day I truly felt that the Lord did indeed love me. He had lifted that burden I’d carried for years. I still felt like it was just the beginning. He had cleaned my slate, yes, but now I had to trust Him to keep it that way and I knew that I still had a lot to learn. So I committed myself to God, I accepted Jesus as my personal Lord and Saviour.
Some people think that life automatically becomes easier once you become Christian. If anything it makes it harder, but so much more worth living. God wants so much to take away our pain. Strange isn’t it? First I don’t believe then all of a sudden I’m even more certain about God’s love than some people who have believed in Him their whole lives. When the Lord reveals Himself to you, it is the most overwhelming feeling you will ever feel. Better than any ‘high’ you could ever get. Once you’ve had a taste of this ‘high’ you just want more and more.
Over the next few weeks people started to comment on how much I’d changed. I didn’t feel anything really different at first, I felt like I had always been the way I am now. I felt like I have always loved God and been proud of that fact. I sometimes look back now and think to myself ‘why did I wait so long to accept Christ?’ I had the opportunity so many times, but the Lord had such amazing timing. Some of my problems are yet to be resolved, but now I know how to work on them and who to trust and give up everything to. I even have other worries, but I know that God never deserts us, He knows everything, He loves us all and when the time is right, no matter how it seems, He will deliver us from it all. I thank Him every day and night, for loving me, showing me mercy when I felt I really didn’t deserve it, for guiding and protecting me, and for whatever He has planned for my future.
Now my behaviour has improved, my mum and I have rebuilt the trust I lost, my relationship with my siblings has improved also, and I no longer hate my dad. I've forgiven him. I’ve forgiven him and pray for him all the time. Now my friends ask me what’s changed. What’s made you so different?’ and I always answer ‘I am a Christian, I have a relationship with Christ, I live by His example’ and the conversation moves towards who Jesus was and why I should care about Him or how He lived. Every day I learn something new, constantly growing, and I can truly say that despite all these things I’m worried about, college, work et cetera, I have never been more at peace or happy. I just pray that others can find God as I have done, because He truly does affect everything in your life - life now means much more than just living for the sake of it.
I am now part of the prayer ministry at church :)
Oh happy happy days :)
Happy easter (for yesterday) lol
Sex criminals, Completely incurable, you got to lock them up. You could outlaw religion and in most cities sex crimes would disappear in a couple of generations. But we don't have time for rational solutions!
George Carlin
Im Christian Catholic since i came to this world (born). I just believe that every religion have their own philosophy.. and.... its for a good purpose. I dont know bout atheism, i mean what they believe.. i guess nothing. I hv so many experience that i've been through... I left for so many times.. again and again i left it.. but i miss this for so many times also. Deep inside me, i miss to come back to Him. I believe that everyone hv an angel who keeping save, and telling if u go too far. Thats all. Im sorry if in my words theres a mistakes or hurting sumone over here :)
ps : my english is not that good, hope understanding)
yes it is for a good purpose, to give it's followers a sort of guidelines as to how one should lead a good honorable life. the thing is that you don't need fairy tales to learn how to live like this just common sense.
also you werent born a catholic cause you had to learn about it all therefore you were taught to be a catholic.
your english is quite good.
Okay just to point this out….it's not Christianity that's the best religion or best answer….because that's wrong…i would say God is. Now, i am a Christian and i love it but i think when you put it in perspective like this…well, it kind of makes it seem like you are boasting.
"Atheism," Father Seraphim wrote in later years, "true 'existential' atheism, burning with hatred of a seemingly unjust or unmerciful God is a spiritual state; it is a real attempt to grapple with the true God Whose ways are so inexplicable even to the most believing of men, and it has more than once been known to end in a blinding vision of Him Whom the real atheist truly seeks. It is Christ Who works in these souls. The Antichrist is not to be found in the deniers, but in the small affirmers, whose Christ is only on the lips. Nietzsche, in calling himself Antichrist, proved thereby his intense hunger for Christ..."
I'm forced to give up God. I cried before God, but I dont think I can forgive myself.
And I don't think I'll ever get a chance to go back with Him again.
I'm miserable and lost. With no believes.
I've changed alot since I departed from God.
there is always a way back. you have to want it